OhioRaiderNation wrote: I think time will tell whether he is the right man for the job but as far as the current team goes, Irving is the only guy that can score the ball with any efficiency and our 2nd unit is filled with stiffs and D-Leaguers.  If we are having the same conversation next year with a healthy Varejao, then I'd say be worried.

blkmagic00 wrote:

OhioRaiderNation wrote: I think time will tell whether he is the right man for the job but as far as the current team goes, Irving is the only guy that can score the ball with any efficiency and our 2nd unit is filled with stiffs and D-Leaguers.  If we are having the same conversation next year with a healthy Varejao, then I'd say be worried.

SCOTT IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB! C Town would have had at least had ONE title in the LeBron era had we had Scott on the bench during those years!! Give Scott a couple nice draft picks along with Irving, a healthy Varejao to work with and this team will be contending for the EC in 2-3 years!

rhkilgour wrote:

blkmagic00 wrote:

OhioRaiderNation wrote: I think time will tell whether he is the right man for the job but as far as the current team goes, Irving is the only guy that can score the ball with any efficiency and our 2nd unit is filled with stiffs and D-Leaguers.  If we are having the same conversation next year with a healthy Varejao, then I'd say be worried.

SCOTT IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB! C Town would have had at least had ONE title in the LeBron era had we had Scott on the bench during those years!! Give Scott a couple nice draft picks along with Irving, a healthy Varejao to work with and this team will be contending for the EC in 2-3 years!

I agree with this one.  I definately believe Scott is the right guy.  Our roster is awful.  Kyrie is great.  Jamison is old and just not that good.  Thompson is young and needs to develop.  Gee is just servicable.  Parker is terrible.  The rest of the team are either D leaguers or cast offs.  Plus Scott has a history with Point Guards.  Just give it some time.

edgy1 wrote: For me, Scott's resume of success building a winner both in NOLA and New Jersey makes him the right person here still. Irving has been everything as advertised, and TT is developing along. Adding another 2 1st round picks this offseason will raise the expectations for Scott, no doubt.

People complain about winning during the first half of the year and now cry about getting beat.

Look at what Scott did with this team when we had AV and Sessions. It was a .500 club with one person who could create his own shot. I thought he was doing a fine job during that time.

Now you take away AV, Sessions, Boobie and the beast Ryan Hollins and replace them with Harris, Walton, Sloan and the next 10 day contract and Coach Scott sucks? I don't buy it what anyone is selling on Scott being a bad coach. His hands are tied and he knows this club is trying to add better players through the draft.

The people you need to point the finger at is the players. Most of them have called it quits on the season after the playoff picture closed on them.

Aardvark wrote: CR23:

Is anyone else concerned about this recent string of losses? I know we all want the ping-pong balls, but jesus, they look every bit as bad as they did last season.

AA:

Oh, for Chrissakes.

People have been harping about losses all damn year and now that the club, who some predicted would have 13-14 wins for the entire season, are now fretting that they smell.  I mean BAD!
The Cavs now look like an old CBA team with half the roster stocked with 10 day contracts, and a couple of veterans who at this point in their careers hoped they could be riding the bench on a contender and not have to, ulp, assume so much responsibility.  And it calls into question Scott's coaching?

CR23: Not sure who shat in your cornflakes, Alcoholics Anonymous. First part of your statement is really not relevant or fair. You're associating "people" with me. I always root for a win, period. I understand the advantages to tanking and it looks like we've lucked out at the right time. We showed improvement, and now with injuries and trades, we're going to barely make it across the finish line, setting ourselves up for a nice lottery pick.

There is something bizzarre about fans who WANT their team to lose, but not by TOO MUCH.  This porridge is TOO HOT!  This porridge is TOO COLD.  I suppose in a perfect world, the Cavs would be the young and hungry jobber who gives the heel the fight of his life, only to make the fatal mistake of the drop kick that connects only with air and setting himself up for the submission finish.

No, the Cavs are the Mulkey Brothers from here on out.

CR23: Again, you're pulling this stuff out of nowhere. I don't root for the team to lose. I've played basketball my whole life. It's not in my blood. So don't associate me with what you think is some universal truth. It's not. The Cavs have set two RECORDS for futility under Scott. The 27-game losing streak last season and this seasons home albatross against Chicago.

CR23:

I am really alarmed that perhaps the team just isn't buying into Scott. Which doesn't really matter because a good half of them will be gone by next season anyway.

AA:

There you go answering your own concern.

CR23: I'm sorry, I didn't realize every sentence of my post had to be a question awaiting your almighty answer. And it doesn't quite answer my own concern. It begs the question whether Scott will be able to keep the kids in his corner as he we go forward. We are likely destined for more losing next season. Can Scott keep the faith as we start building a team for contention? I'm not sure.

CR23:

But does anyone truly see us developing into even a decent defensive team with Scott at the helm? Our defense has been atrocious. Some of the worst I have ever seen over these past two seasons.

AA:

And some of the worst offense, too.  But since half the roster will be gone this summer, there's little use in being alarmed by the varied facets of their suckitude.

CR23: My two biggest concerns with Scott are defense and some of his media tough guy talk. First, defensively. It's not just that it's a statistical disaster, it's that it seems like nobody knows their assignments. Right now, sure that's explainable with a roster filled with never-will bes. But this has been a pretty consistent weakpoint, from last season to this season, even with a healthy roster. Major confusion on defense. I can't even tell what we're trying to do no matter how much I watch it. Secondly, the talk. I know Scott actually is a tough guy, so I'm not suggesting it's an act. But it just gets old hearing him issue ultimatums about playing time and publicly saying the players don't care. Especially when they get throttled worse after he says those things. It could be just my personal taste, but I'd prefer to see him take some accountability from time to time. 

I do think Byron Scott is a good coach. But I somehow doubt he will be the coach when we start contending. And I'm not sure why he is so off-limits for criticism. His coaching credentials are largely overrated in my opinion. You'd think the guy had won a championship or two. He's had his ups and downs in his coaching career just like most coaches. I don't really see how he's established himself as anything special.

ClevelandRocks23 wrote:

CR23: My two biggest concerns with Scott are defense and some of his media tough guy talk. First, defensively. It's not just that it's a statistical disaster, it's that it seems like nobody knows their assignments. Right now, sure that's explainable with a roster filled with never-will bes. But this has been a pretty consistent weakpoint, from last season to this season, even with a healthy roster. Major confusion on defense. I can't even tell what we're trying to do no matter how much I watch it. Secondly, the talk. I know Scott actually is a tough guy, so I'm not suggesting it's an act. But it just gets old hearing him issue ultimatums about playing time and publicly saying the players don't care. Especially when they get throttled worse after he says those things. It could be just my personal taste, but I'd prefer to see him take some accountability from time to time. 

I do think Byron Scott is a good coach. But I somehow doubt he will be the coach when we start contending. And I'm not sure why he is so off-limits for criticism. His coaching credentials are largely overrated in my opinion. You'd think the guy had won a championship or two. He's had his ups and downs in his coaching career just like most coaches. I don't really see how he's established himself as anything special.

MuskieBuck wrote: How can you even begin to complain about a guy who has s**t for a roster and zero NBA caliber PG's to lead the offense? Absurd. There are NO bonafide starters on this team right now-unless you call the lame duck Jamison a starter. Probably the worst overall roster with Irving, Varejao and Boobie out-and I am not saying Boobie is the Second Coming of anyone-and a rookie power forward who can't score starting at center. This is one of those threads that I wonder why it was even started.

MuskieBuck wrote: ClevelandRocks23 you have to excuse our antagonism. This is a pretty rough group-and at one time it was even rougher than it it now. In fact, we are probably tougher than our team is.

ClevelandRocks23 wrote:

MuskieBuck wrote: ClevelandRocks23 you have to excuse our antagonism. This is a pretty rough group-and at one time it was even rougher than it it now. In fact, we are probably tougher than our team is.

Haha I've actually been around a very long time, Musk. I have been more of a reader the last couple years, but I used to post a lot back in the day. No problem man, I feel ya.

ClevelandRocks23 wrote: Ohio -

I want to be clear, I am not saying Byron Scott ISN'T the answer, I'm merely saying he may not be. I am not calling for his head because of two poor seasons with two putrid rosters. Just pointing out a thing or two that I see as flaws which could lead to his eventual downfall. Coaches don't last long in the NBA. I'm sure the losing is really taking a toll on Scott already. The front office plan is sound. I just wonder if it's compatible with Scott's tenacious desire to win now.

coachGB wrote: The guy has 3 d-league players in his rotation right now.  He also has Caspi who belongs in the d-league.  He has Anthony Parker who is the worst starting sg in the nba, Gee who is really a backup on a decent team, and Thompson who while showing promise really is playing out of position.  Without Irving and Andy, this is a team who would challenge for the worst record ever in an 82 game season.  This is a 6-10 win team right now without Irving.  I really doubt they win another game again this season unless Irving comes back. I don't see how anyone could win with the collection of rejects and stiffs that are currently on the roster.  They have maybe 1 guy (Jamison) who would be in the rotation for a championship level team.